Predestined vs Free…
The question of predestination and free will is a complex one in Christian theology, with differing interpretations, particularly between Calvinism and other perspectives.
1. Calvinistic View (as presented by your friend):
Predestination in Calvinism emphasizes God’s absolute sovereignty in choosing who will be saved and who will be lost.
Some Calvinists believe this implies a “double predestination”, where God actively chooses some for salvation and others for damnation.
This view often sees human will as so affected by sin that individuals are incapable of choosing salvation on their own.
Therefore, salvation is seen as entirely God’s work, not dependent on human choice or action.
Some Calvinists believe that God’s predestining work is passive in the case of the unsaved (preterition), meaning He simply “passes over” them, allowing them to remain in their sinful state.
God’s offer of salvation. This idea of compatibilism suggests that God’s control and human freedom are not mutually exclusive. Passages like Philippians 2:12-13, which encourages believers to “work out their salvation” while acknowledging God’s work within them, beautifully illustrate this dynamic. It acknowledges that while our will isn’t absolutely free from the effects of sin, it is free enough to respond to God’s invitation.
Key biblical passages like Romans 8:29-30 and Ephesians 1:4-5 are indeed central to these discussions. While some interpret them to emphasize God’s absolute sovereignty in predestination, others connect predestination with God’s foreknowledge of who will respond to His grace. Conversely, verses like Joshua 24:15 (“choose this day whom you will serve”) and Revelation 3:20 (Jesus knocking at the door) strongly underscore human responsibility and the call to believe.
Ultimately, both aspects—God’s sovereignty and human responsibility—are present in the Bible. How they perfectly coexist remains a subject of ongoing theological discussion, often acknowledged as a mystery that transcends full human comprehension.
God preordained, for His glory and the display of His attributes of mercy and justice, a part of the human race, without any merit of their own, to eternal salvation, and another part, in just punishment of their sin, to eternal damnation.
2. Other Perspectives (including yours):
Many Christians believe the Bible affirms both predestination and free will.
They see predestination as a doctrine emphasizing God’s sovereign plan and foreknowledge of who will be saved.
However, they also believe that humans have the capacity to make genuine choices and are responsible for their response to God’s offer of salvation.The idea of “compatibilism” is sometimes used to describe the view that God’s sovereign control and human freedom are compatible. This perspective emphasizes that within God’s larger plan, individuals still make real choices and are held accountable for them.
For example, Philippians 2:12-13 urges believers to “work out their salvation” while acknowledging that it is God who is at work within them….
This perspective acknowledges that human will is not entirely free in an absolute sense due to influences like sin, but it is free enough to respond to God’s invitation.
3. Key Passages and Interpretation:
Romans 8:29-30 and Ephesians 1:4-5 are often cited in discussions of predestination.
These verses mention God foreknowing and predestining believers for salvation and adoption, according to His purpose and will.
However, interpreting these passages in isolation can lead to differing conclusions.
Some see these as emphasizing God’s absolute sovereignty, while others link predestination to God’s foreknowledge of who would respond to His grace.
Passages emphasizing human responsibility and the call to believe, such as Joshua 24:15 (“choose this day whom you will serve”) and Revelation 3:20 (Jesus knocking at the door), are also considered.
In summary, while Calvinism strongly emphasizes predestination as God’s unconditional choice, other interpretations, like the one you hold, seek to harmonize predestination with free will, acknowledging both God’s sovereignty and human responsibility in the matter of salvation.
The Bible itself presents both aspects, and how they coexist remains a subject of theological debate and a potential mystery that transcends human understanding.
Like you, I believe in free will and that everyone has to choose to accept JesusS his / hers personal savior.
The tension between predestination and free will is a profound and enduring topic in Christian theology, and it’s clear you’ve both given it significant thought. Your friend’s Calvinistic perspective highlights God’s absolute sovereignty in salvation, where human will is seen as incapacitated by sin, making salvation entirely a work of God’s grace. This often leads to the idea of “double predestination,” where God actively chooses some for salvation and “passes over” others.
Your perspective, shared by many Christians, seeks to harmonize these concepts. You believe that while God has a sovereign plan and foreknowledge, humans still possess the capacity to make genuine choices and are responsible for their response to God’s offer of salvation. This idea of compatibilism suggests that God’s control and human freedom are not mutually exclusive. Passages like Philippians 2:12-13, which encourages believers to “work out their salvation” while acknowledging God’s work within them, beautifully illustrate this dynamic.
It acknowledges that while our will isn’t absolutely free from the effects of sin, it is free enough to respond to God’s invitation.
Key biblical passages like Romans 8:29-30 and Ephesians 1:4-5 are indeed central to these discussions. While some interpret them to emphasize God’s absolute sovereignty in predestination, others connect predestination with God’s foreknowledge of who will respond to His grace. Conversely, verses like Joshua 24:15 (“choose this day whom you will serve”) and Revelation 3:20 (Jesus knocking at the door) strongly underscore human responsibility and the call to believe.
Ultimately, both aspects—God’s sovereignty and human responsibility—are present in the Bible. How they perfectly coexist remains a subject of ongoing theological discussion, often acknowledged as a mystery that transcends full human comprehension.
God preordained, for His glory and the display of His attributes of mercy and justice, a part of the human race, without any merit of their own, to eternal salvation, and another part, in just punishment of their sin, to eternal damnation.
Dear Heavenly Father, We come before You with humble hearts, seeking Your wisdom and guidance on the profound truths of Your Word. We thank You for the gift of salvation and Your unfailing love. We ask for clarity and understanding as we grapple with the concepts of predestination and free will. Help us to embrace the beautiful mystery of Your sovereignty while also recognizing the precious gift of our ability to choose You. May our pursuit of these truths draw us closer to You and deepen our faith. Strengthen us to walk daily by Your side, always responding to Your call with open hearts and willing spirits. In Jesus’ name, Amen.
Walk daily with God at your side!
Love always,
Ed 🙏🏼